agree or disagree, is there an ideological split, that there is so little trust that they feel that obama is bent on really achieving conquest over the republicans by the midterms, trying to isolate tea party republicans and not really coming to too much of a deal. you hear the president talk about, well, he'd be willing to make some modifications to the medicare program. i mean, he certainly is not willing to get into a negotiation over that because he thinks it's going to be one-sided. so can just underlines how far apart they are when it comes to any sort of big deal. and the more people i talk to around the hill, people who know the president, that we might be looking at much smaller deals to try to chip away at some of these issues rather than this concept of a grand bargain. >> chuck, we've gotten the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. horrible numbers for congress overall and pretty bad numbers for the republican brand. yet paul ryan yesterday coming out and as a leader sort of talking about we may need to be more accepting of the fact that we only control the house. we don't